Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/24/1994 05:00 PM House TRA

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             HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                           
                        February 24, 1994                                      
                            5:00 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Richard Foster, Chair                                         
  Representative Gary Davis, Vice-Chair                                        
  Representative Eldon Mulder                                                  
  Representative Al Vezey                                                      
  Representative Bill Hudson                                                   
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Jerry Mackie                                                  
  Representative Curt Menard                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Presentation by Port of Bellingham.                                          
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  JIM DARLING, Director                                                        
  Port of Bellingham                                                           
  625 Cornwall Avenue                                                          
  Bellingham, WA  98227                                                        
  206-676-2500                                                                 
                                                                               
  BRUCE AYERS                                                                  
  Bellingham City Council                                                      
  c/o Port of Bellingham                                                       
  625 Cornwall Avenue                                                          
  Bellingham, WA  98227                                                        
  206-676-2500                                                                 
                                                                               
  MIKE BRENNAN, President                                                      
  Whatcom County Chamber                                                       
  c/o Port of Bellingham                                                       
  625 Cornwall Avenue                                                          
  Bellingham, WA  98227                                                        
  206-676-2500                                                                 
                                                                               
  SCOTT WALKER, Commissioner                                                   
  Port of Bellingham                                                           
  625 Cornwall Avenue                                                          
  Bellingham, WA  98227                                                        
  206-676-2500                                                                 
                                                                               
  PETER ZUANICH, Commissioner                                                  
  Port of Bellingham                                                           
  625 Cornwall Avenue                                                          
  Bellingham, WA  98227                                                        
  206-676-2500                                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-5, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m.  He                    
  welcomed the Port of Bellingham (POB) representatives and                    
  thanked them for the summer tour in which he had                             
  participated last August.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 029                                                                   
                                                                               
  JIM DARLING identified himself as Acting Executive Director                  
  for the POB, and thanked the committee for the opportunity                   
  to make the presentation.  He stated that there were two                     
  issues in particular which he wished to comment on.  The                     
  first was the airport, which serves the northwestern part of                 
  Washington.  He said last year the runway was extended from                  
  5000 to 6800 feet.  In addition, they are replacing the                      
  Winnebago control tower with a tall one, and will be                         
  installing additional navigational aids.  He stated that                     
  this project would give them the ability to attract airlines                 
  which would perhaps then renew their direct links between                    
  Bellingham and Alaska, both for passengers and cargo.                        
                                                                               
  Number 082                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING identified the other project as the Multimodal                   
  Facility Fairhaven Station, which was made possible through                  
  a series of federal and state grants, as well as local                       
  contributions by the port.  This facility will be within                     
  several hundred feet of the ferry terminal and will include                  
  a bus facility and train terminal.  He concluded by making                   
  the point that, since the ferry came, this project has                       
  always been what was envisioned as the next step, and                        
  represents a recommitment to the ferry terminal.                             
                                                                               
  Number 146                                                                   
                                                                               
  BRUCE AYERS introduced himself as being with the Bellingham                  
  City Council, and confirmed Mr. Darling's assertions that                    
  the community is recommitted to the ferry and port.  He                      
  mentioned moving ahead their truck route, onto the freeway,                  
  as one of the recent steps taken, as well as working on more                 
  landscaping, perhaps adding a motel, etc., all working                       
  toward the goal of making the port more of a hub.                            
                                                                               
  Number 184                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS asked if the POB operates under an                      
  enterprise fund-type situation, and if the combination bus/                  
  train/ferry complex is an industrial development site.                       
                                                                               
  Number 188                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING responded that the Port Authority is a special                   
  district in the state of Washington, and their boundaries                    
  are co-terminus with Whatcom County.  He added that they                     
  have taxing authority, with about 25% of their revenue                       
  coming from property taxes, and 75% from operating fees,                     
  leases and rents.  The Port Authority uses a single fund,                    
  but has separate cost centers.  The new transportation                       
  location is such a separate cost center.  He said that they                  
  don't do too well, financially, with the transportation                      
  location, but the new Amtrak and Greyhound links will                        
  certainly help, and are attracting new cruise vessels.  He                   
  concluded with the point that the facility has many spin-off                 
  benefits for the community.                                                  
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS asked if the airport is included in the                 
  Port Authority.                                                              
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING responded that the Port Authority operates the                   
  airport, marinas, the passenger facility, a break bulk cargo                 
  terminal, and they are one of the largest property owners                    
  and operators, from retail to heavy industry, renting out a                  
  diverse range of property.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 216                                                                   
                                                                               
  MIKE BRENNAN identified himself as being with the Bellingham                 
  Chamber of Commerce, and noted he'd had the pleasure of                      
  addressing the committee for four years ago now.  He                         
  mentioned past discussions of the Canadian impact on the                     
  Whatcom County.  In 1991 they had about 31 million Canadians                 
  come into town; now the numbers are dropping due to a lower-                 
  valued Canadian dollar.  However, they are having a good                     
  deal of growth and development, and folks are coming into                    
  Bellingham to do their regional shopping.  Bellingham, as a                  
  community, is going through a transition; he sees it as a                    
  host community.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 244                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS asked Mr. Brennan how the Chamber                       
  reacts to government owned property that is leased to                        
  hotels, etc., and if they had a lot of complaints from                       
  private enterprise regarding the competition, or if they did                 
  fair market value leases so that they are on par with                        
  private enterprise.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 252                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING responded that they do fair market leases,                       
  though they have some historical leases, which may be below                  
  market value, to stimulate economic development; but in the                  
  not too distant past, they will go completely to fair market                 
  leases, for precisely the reason brought up in                               
  Representative Davis' question.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 262                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BRENNAN made the point that the state of Washington is                   
  the only state in the nation which has a constitutional                      
  preclusion where the public sector cannot in any way benefit                 
  in activities on the private side.  And Port Authorities was                 
  created to act in a quasi capacity between government and                    
  the private sector, so they have the bonding capability and                  
  are expected to do the capital improvement processes                         
  necessary through the bonding programs available to them, to                 
  enhance community-size activities.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 270                                                                   
                                                                               
  SCOTT WALKER identified himself as Commissioner of the POB,                  
  and added that Washington is somewhat different in Port                      
  Authorities, as all the commissioners are elected rather                     
  than appointed.  The sensitivity to the private sector is                    
  reflected in the campaigns.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 292                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER asked how long the terms are.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 296                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING responded that they are six year terms, but                      
  there's some variation.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 298                                                                   
  CHAIR FOSTER asked what kind of constituency it is.                          
                                                                               
  Number 300                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING responded that it is county-wide.                                
                                                                               
  Number 303                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER asked what became of the controversy relating                   
  to taxes on cargo ships.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 305                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BRENNAN responded that the state of Washington has a                     
  sales tax exemption for residents of Alaska, the U.S. Virgin                 
  Islands, American Samoa, the Province of Alberta -- those                    
  states or provinces which do not charge a sales tax.  He                     
  added that the new omnibus tax act in Washington attempted                   
  to eliminate Alaskans' sales tax exemption, and would only                   
  allow it for people from Oregon, but the Governor line-item                  
  vetoed it.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 328                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING made the point that the POB works very closely,                  
  and has a very good relationship with, the Marine Highway                    
  staff.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 334                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER WALKER stated that he felt more of a                            
  partnership with Alaska than the Seattle group.  He then                     
  presented the Transportation Committee with a picture of the                 
  POB.                                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 348                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER expressed thanks and appreciation for the                       
  picture, as did other committee members.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 353                                                                   
                                                                               
  PETER ZUANICH identified himself as Commissioner of POB, and                 
  made the point that MCI owns a shipyard immediately adjacent                 
  to the ferry terminal, and on POB property, which is                         
  probably the favorite shipyard in the United States for the                  
  Alaska Ferry System -- they can't say too many good things                   
  about them.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER thanked Reed Stoops for his part in keeping the                 
  committee informed.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 381                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLING invited the committee to attend the opening of                   
  the Multimodal Facility in October 1994.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 389                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR FOSTER adjourned at 5:30 p.m.                                          

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